Swimming & Diving Advisory Committee

Minutes
Dec. 2, 2008 • 10 a.m.
Robert W. Hughes FHSAA Building
Gainesville, Florida


1. Introductions, purpose, e-mail addresses
The meeting was called to order at 10:07 a.m. by Shanell Young. Ms. Young noted the purpose of the meeting and those in attendance proceeded with a brief introduction of themselves. In attendance were: Bill Burrows, Northeast; Dianne Kimble, Cape Coral; Bob Plageman, Cape Coral; Jimmy Parmewter, St. Thomas Aquinas; Cindy Jones, St. Thomas Aquinas; Duffy Dillion, Cardinal Gibbons; Natasha Kremer, Titusville. FHSAA staff members present were Dr. John Stewart, Executive Director; Shanell Young, Director of Athletics; Denarvise Thornton, Associate Executive Director; Brett Adams, FHSAA Intern.

2. Committee members completed their travel expense vouchers.

3. Shanell Young was designated as the Chairperson due to the fact that there was not a quorum present.

4. The minutes from the previous meeting and the agenda were reviewed but not adopted.

5. Review of the 2008-09 FHSAA Swimming & Diving Manual and no changes or recommendation were submitted.

6. Review of the 2008 State Meet in Orlando included the following discussion items:
1) The members that were present at the meet were satisfied with the overall run of the meet.
2) Great location and having the options of hotels within walking distance was great.
3) Having the Pinch-A-Penny athletes placed in the packet helped the coaches.
4) The members of the committee asked if there were options to clearing the facility between the two sessions
5) It was also asked if pre-sale tickets could be offered in the morning session for the finals session. It would allow quicker entrance into the facility for the second session.
6) The members also wanted to thank the YMCA, the Central Florida Sports Commission and the FHSAA for a great job.
7) The only coaching complaints heard had to do with the number of passes that each school received based on the number of athletes they qualified. This meet management protocol has been in place for many years.
8) The online coaches meeting prior to the FHSAA Finals was considered a great benefit for all those involved, and will continue in the future.

7. Old Business— there were no items for discussion.

8. New Business— there were no items for discussion.

9. Roundtable/Discussion
a. Meet Management
i. The committee asked if the e-mail address and fax numbers be included in both the district and region host information packets. This would assist the meet management with communication between the rounds.
ii. The committee asked if the FHSAA could include the sports manual with the meet management materials.
iii. The committee also asked of the possibility of an extra “rules” presentation for officials which work the state series.

b. Passes (e-mail)
i. The issue of placing separation between high school and club coaches was brought to the committee for discussion. The general consensus of the committee was that the e-mail discussed a “personal” issue and that the two coaches should work out the problem. They also stated that both high school and club coaches should work together for the benefit of the athletes.
ii. The ratio of passes was also discussed. The committee would like to see that passes should be broken up by gender and max out also.
iii. It was also brought to the committee by staff that they must always keep the facility space in mind when requesting more passes.

c. 207.02 Failure to Appear and Compete.
i. This rule was discussed by the committee, and there were two recommendations that was brought forward
1. Institute a type of “buy-in” or monetary fine after an athlete does not show for an event. If the athlete would like compete, they could buy their way back into the event.
2. Allow the athlete to at least compete in any events they qualified in before the no-show. See NFHS Rule Art. 2 pen. 3

d. 3-2-1(a). Exhibitions
i. The committee discussed the possibility of allowing regular season meets the option of allowing exhibition races if all coaches agreed prior to the meet.

e. SW3 forms
i. The form should be clarified to state that “List each student-athlete who will be eligible for competition in the district meet as stated on the official entry list for eligibility” and “Corrections will not be accepted after your district has published the Psyche sheets.”

f. High-Tech Suits (e-mail & recommendation)
i. The members stated that the suits can be seen as providing an advantage to those who can afford the suits, but would not support banning them from competition. They would like to wait and see if the NFHS changes their stance on the suits

The meeting was adjourned at 1:45 p.m.